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    Govt declares HINDRAF is illegal

    How can a non-registered body be declared illegal? It was never legal in the first place since it is not registered with the Registrar of Societies.

    Does it mean we cannot wear HINDRAF T-shirts in public?

    If a White man were to wear a HINDRAF shirt, is he committing an offence?

    Question. Questions. So many unanswered questions.

    Gov't declares Hindraf an illegal organisation
    Oct 15, 08 7:10pm

    The government today declared the Hindu Rights Actions Force (Hindraf) an illegal organisation with immediate effect.

    Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar said the decision was made after the ministry was satisfied with facts and evidence that showed "Hindraf had and was being used for unlawful purposes and posed a threat to public order and morality".

    syed hamid albar putrajaya pc 310708 01"Based on powers vested under Section 5(1) of the Societies Act, Hindraf from today is declared an illegal organisation," he said in a statement today.

    He said the order was being made as a result of monitoring and investigation on the organisation's activities by the Registrar of Societies (ROS) and Home Ministry, since Hindraf's inception.

    http://malaysiakini.com/news/91342
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    Bravo! UMNO has created a new group of mythical heroes

    Hindraf: Our spirit will not be banished
    By Shannon Teoh

    KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 16 — Banning Hindraf will not banish the groundswell of emotion, says its chairman P. Waytha Moorthy.

    In a press statement, the organisation’s leader-in-exile said that “declaring Hindraf as an illegal organisation will in any case not banish the spirit that created Hindraf” and called on Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi “to advise his Home Minister to revoke the order.”

    “Hindraf represents a very deep feeling experienced in the hearts and souls of millions of Indians both locally and internationally,” he claimed.

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/i...ot-be-banished
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    UMNO is still stuck in "1984" mode

    UMNO still hasn't recovered from Mar 8, 2008. They are behaving like a clumsy giant flailing at the birds in the sky. They can't believe that the formulas, taught so well to them by the British, that they have so successfully used for the past 50 years can't work anymore - the formulas of George Orwell in 1984 - http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/index.html.

    The Malaysian zero sum game

    COMMENTARY
    By Leslie Lau
    Consultant Editor

    OCT 16 — The government's hostility towards the Hindu Rights Action Front (Hindraf), culminating in the outlawing of the organisation, and Utusan Malaysia's war with Teresa Kok has hardened the position of the nationalist Malay right behind Umno.

    But it will have done Umno and the Barisan Nasional few favours in winning back the hearts and minds of Malay moderates or the support of the Chinese, Indian and other non-Malay communities.

    By targeting Kok, Utusan and the nationalist Malays are hoping to rally the community against the “threat” of the Chinese DAP, as represented by the Seputeh MP.

    Cheras Umno division head Datuk Wira Syed Ali Alhabshi has even set up a Tabung Azan to aid Utusan against the RM30 million defamation lawsuit filed against the paper by Kok.

    His reasoning was that a lawsuit against Utusan was an act of hostility against all Malays and all Muslims.

    Even Malaysian Press Institute chief executive officer Chamil Wariya made a thinly-veiled attempt at attacking Kok by writing a short story published last week in Utusan in which the protagonist, described as an anti-Malay female MP, is assassinated.

    Read on... http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/i...-zero-sum-game
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    Re: HINDRAF: GARLAND PRESENTED TO PM-IN-WAITING

    Quote Originally Posted by pywong
    Contrast the reception HINDRAF received from Anwar. This afternoon (12 Oct 0, HINDRAF presented a garland to Anwar Ibrahim at his open house at Kelab Sultan Sulaiman, Kg Baru.

    No "biadab" (insolence).

    No security or police blocking their entrance.

    That is how leaders should treat the people - with respect!
    Anil Netto's report of same event: http://anilnetto.com/ethnic-and-inte...rs-open-house/
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    Pakatan leaders condemn Hindraf ban

    Pakatan leaders condemn Hindraf ban
    Rahmah Ghazali | Oct 16, 08 1:54pm

    Pakatan leaders today condemned the decision by the Home Ministry to ban the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf).

    At a press conference in Parliament, PAS secretary-general Kamaruddin Jaafar questioned why Hindraf had been singled out.

    parliament 161008 kamaruddin jaafar"There are a lot of coalitions and non-governmental organisations which have emerged and bring up all sorts of issues. It is strange why Hindraf has become the only target," said the Tumpat MP.

    Read on... http://malaysiakini.com/news/91366
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    Hindraf ban: Opposition to benefit

    Hindraf ban: Opposition to benefit
    RK Anand | Oct 16, 08 4:53pm
    The government has 'fed the opposition a big slice of cake' by banning the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf), said Malaysian Indian Business Association (Miba) president P Sivakumar today.

    Criticising the ban, he said the opposition alliance Pakatan Rakyat would capitalise on the issue and lure more Indian Malaysians into its fold.

    p sivakumarSivakumar also took Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar to task for claiming that Hindraf had incited hatred between the races.


    Lies, damn lies & statistics.

    See how Syed Hamid twist the numbers to prove his point. Hamfisted actions may have worked in the past because the people were cowed. Not anymore.

    The numbers are not important. What is important is how people are treated - they demand fair treatment.

    Is that too much to ask?

    [i]Syed Hamid added that there was a ratio of one temple to 149 Hindus and one mosque to 2,300 Muslims in thiscountry.[/i ]


    Read on.. http://malaysiakini.com/news/91399
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    Press Release: CPPS' Statement on Banning of HINDRAF

    CPPS' Statement on Banning of HINDRAF
    CENTRE FOR PUBLIC POLICY STUDIES - PRESS STATEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    http://cpps.org.my/sub_page.aspx?catID=241&ddlID=487

    The Centre for Public Policy Studies (CPPS) is disappointed with the decision taken by the Home Minister, Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar to declare the Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDRAF) an illegal organisation. This move by the Ministry of Home Affairs is an infringement on the basic human right to expression and contradicts the Prime Minister’s previous commitment to opening up the democratic space and allowing more open discussion in the country. This decision is telling of the dismal state of civil liberties in Malaysia, and sends these signals to the domestic and international community.

    The CPPS finds ludicrous that HINDRAF, in trying to voice out very legitimate grievances of the consistent socio-economic marginalisation of the Indian community, has been labelled as a threat to “public order, peace, security and morality” (The Star, Thursday 16 October 200. According to the Minister, HINDRAF would also pose a threat to the prevailing racial harmony enjoyed in Malaysia presently. This spells caution that any interest group speaking on behalf of the economic marginalisation of their particular community would be considered as a threat.

    Instead of banning HINDRAF, the Government should have called for an open, rational discussion in order to ascertain the problems and issues raised, and in seeking constructive solutions to overcome them. This move may instead fuel further resentment by minority ethnic groups who are legitimately raising concerns of their particular interests. Discussion and dialogue on grievances or perceived injustices should be encouraged, not stifled. Suppressing dissent under the guise of national peace and security is in fact counterproductive to fostering true national unity amongst the citizens of the country. Genuine national unity begins by identifying real problems and struggles being faced by all interest groups in the country. The CPPS is also concerned that the government is planning on identifying specific members of HINDRAF or anyone associated with the group.

    The CPPS urges the government to reconsider its ban on HINDRAF and respond to grievances of various ethnic groups by engaging in further discussion and working towards reaching mutually beneficial solutions. This draconian method of suppression is not sustainable in the long run. It is hoped that this move by the Ministry is not the beginning of a more extensive clampdown on civil society in Malaysia. If Malaysia truly desires to become a democratic country of developed nation status, it must not suppress opinions of any interest groups, much less those who are already downtrodden upon and at wit’s end.

    Tan Sri Ramon V. Navaratnam, Chairman

    Tricia Yeoh, Director

    Centre for Public Policy Studies

    Kuala Lumpur

    16th October 2008

    For more enquiries, please contact: The Centre for Public Policy Studies;

    website: www.cpps.org.my;

    email: cpps@cpps.org.my

    Tel: +603-20932820/20934209/20932630;

    Fax: +603-20933078
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    Haris Ibrahim to HINDRAF: Stay calm, stay cunning

    Stay calm and stay cunning. Don’t react. For now.
    October 16, 2008

    Lil Hummingbird caught up with me at the lay-by heading out of KL last night.

    ‘Jaya, Shar and Chee Seng are spot on’, he said.

    ‘Who is Jaya, Shar and Chee Seng? And correct about what?’, I asked

    ‘Damn! Don’t you read the comments on your own blog? Are you sure you’re the one who administers The People’s Parliament?

    The Hindraf ban? The Utusan siege of Teresa? The Tabung Azan? Don’t imagine these to be unconnected!

    Najib’s got so much dirt that’s chugging out on the conveyor belt that he desperately needs a diversion.

    And he needs to portray himself as the champion of the Malays and Islam, in the hope that the Malays that get taken in with the the spectre being conjured by UMNO of Islam/Malay bashing, will gloss over the reports coming out of Najib’s misdeeds.

    http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2...react-for-now/
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    Haris Ibrahim to HINDRAF: A time to come as one ...


    A time to come together as one and secure justice and equality for all
    October 16, 2008

    Malaysianatheart commented to the ‘Stay calm and stay cunning. Don’t react. For now’ post :

    Hindraf is caught in a web of its own making. Several months ago I had suggested to Waytha Moorthy in London that he must re-brand Hindraf. Its far too communal. However, it seems that they fear losing the support of the multitudes that made Hindraf possible. And they lack ideas about how they ought to re-brand. In fact, even within the Indian community, there is a sense of unease about Hindraf’s clarion call.

    It is now an opprtune time for Waytha and gang to re-brand. They have demonised Hindraf and “declared it illegal”. So if now Hindraf disappears from the face of the earth - and re-emerges almost immediately as something else - what will the desperado UMNO morons have to demonise or declare as illegal? In fact they will be at a complete loss. They will no longer have a whipping boy!

    Read on... http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2...ity-for-all-2/
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    Syed Hamid's Statement on HINDRAF: Lies, damn lies & statistics

    It's wonderful how numbers can be distorted to suit one's case. That is why it is important to be very careful when politicians quote numbers. Helen Ang has kindly resuscitated those numbers for our benefit after they had been tortured to death by Syed Hamid.

    The Hundraf of Umno’s making
    Posted by St Low
    Monday, 20 October 2008 00:26

    By Helen Ang

    There is no typing error above; I did spell ‘Hundraf’ for Human Rights Action Force. Hundraf is the twin spirit of Makkal Sakthi, an expression translated as People Power, not Indian Power.

    Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar is reported by Bernama as saying the Indians are not neglected in Malaysia. What he implied is that Indians have little cause for complaint and thus the complaining Hindraf have no basis for their struggle.

    Syed Hamid in announcing the ban on Hindraf said the Indian community was quite well represented with 14 Members of Parliament, 21.4% in the legal fraternity, 18.4% in medicine and their income was 1.2 times higher than the Malays.

    Out of his count of 14 Indian MPs, only three are from MIC compared to six from DAP. There are three from PKR and one from PSM — Samy-slayer of Sg Siput, the redoubtable Dr Jeyakumar Devaraj. If Indians are ‘well represented’, it is no thanks to BN. (I could only recognise 13 Indian names, maybe I missed someone or perhaps there is a Malay Dilemma-ed MP in the House.)


    Read on.. http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/14007/84/
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