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    HINDRAF: ACTION BY GOVT TO BE TAKEN UNDER SOCIETIES ACT

    We can observe over the past fifty years how UMNO demonises any group that they perceive is a threat to their hold on power. This is consistent with the strategies that we have highlighted in the Rat Race series here:
    http://tindakmalaysia.com/tm_forums2...topic,5.0.html

    HINDRAF is a grouping of Malaysians of Indian origins who have been so badly marginised that in desperation, they got together to protest against the discriminatory policies of UMNO. These policies were directed at them economically and at their religion - many Hindu temples were targetted for demolition. Throughout their series of protests, they have been non-violent, a bit robust at times but still within social norms. It started with the 25 Nov 07 HINDRAF protest rally at KLCC that drew worldwide attention.

    During the Hari Raya Open House by UMNO at PWTC this month, HINDRAF gathered a few hundred people to make a present to Badawi and to appeal to him to release the HINDRAF leaders detained under the ISA.

    We can see how this simple, gentle appeal has been spunned out by UMNO and the media to portray them as a bunch of hooligans that deserve to be harshly treated.

    Hello UMNO, these people have protested peacefully so far. But don't push them too hard. Sometimes, even a Rat will turn round and bite back if it feels that it has nothing to lose anymore.

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    Action Against Hindraf Under Societies Act
    October 09, 2008 15:28 PM

    KUALA TERENGGANU, Oct 9 (Bernama)-- Deputy Home Minister, Senator Datuk Wan
    Ahmad Farid Wan Salleh, said yesterday the government will take action
    against the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) under the Societies Act 1966
    for causing a disturbance during the Hari Raya function hosted by the Prime
    Minister and Muslim Cabinet ministers at the Putra World Trade Centre in
    Kuala Lumpur last Wednesday.

    http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/ne....php?id=363407

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    MAT SALLEH IS CONFUSED

    This poor Mat Salleh is confused by the whole issue over HINDRAF's barging in. Did they or did they not?

    Open House Confusion
    Posted by St Low
    Friday, 10 October 2008 18:19
    Posted by: engleberthumpadink

    I’m a bit baffled, and am in need of a bit of clarification because I’m really not very good at fathoming out political double-talk.
    This business with HINDRAF and the open house. Can you answer some points of confusion.

    A) Open House: If a house is open to all, then how can somebody “barge in”? I mean, if there were police there, and the Police let them in, then how does that mean “barging in”. Surely if they had forced their way past the police then that would have meant physically forcing their way past, which would constitute “assault of a police officer”. Which is a crime. But if the house IS open, why would somebody have to “barge in”? Unless they were denied access, which would then – by default – deem the term “open house” as null and void. It would be “open to some house” or “semi-open house” or “invite only house”.

    http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/13657/84/
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    IS HINDRAF BEEN UNFAIRLY TARGETTED?

    Two groups visited the PM - bloggers and HINDRAF. But only HINDRAF is being threatened by the police now.

    Why?

    The embarrassment of injustice
    Posted by St Low
    Friday, 10 October 2008 18:17

    By Jacqueline Ann Surin, The Nut Graph

    HOW many times and just how hard do Malaysians have to try to meet Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to raise legitimate concerns about government action?

    And what price do Malaysians, who will not toe the government line by speaking up against injustice, have to pay for trying to meet the self-professed "Prime Minister for all Malaysians"? The one whose smiling face on posters and postcards leads one to trust in a benevolent leader?

    During the Aidilfitri open house hosted by Muslim ministers at the Putra World Trade Centre on 1 Oct 2008 or 1 Syawal 1429, two groups of Malaysians tried to meet Abdullah to plead with him over the use of the Internal Security Act (ISA). The Act unjustly allows for indefinite detention without trial and has, since 1960, been amended numerous times to allow for greater executive power to detain people without accountability.

    One was a group of bloggers, including human rights lawyers that wore anti-ISA t-shirts. The other was a much larger group, numbering a few hundred Hindraf members. Both groups wanted to call on the prime minister to release all ISA detainees and to abolish the law.
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    INSOLENCE & BANNING THE RAIN

    Key words:
    "Insolence" of HINDRAF to the leaders - UMNO bangsawan mentality

    How do you ban the rain?

    http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2...1/ban-hindraf/

    Ban Hindraf?
    Posted by Haris Ibrahim October 11, 2008

    In the song, 'How can you mend a broken heart?', the Bee Gees ask :

    How can you stop the rain from falling down?
    How can you stop the sun from shining?
    What makes the world go round?

    In other words, how do you stop the Divine?
    ............

    http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...cle/index_html

    Home Ministry wants to ban Hindraf
    2008/10/08

    PUTRAJAYA: The Home Ministry wants to ban the Hindu Rights Action Force.

    Secretary-general Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Mohd Yusof said as Hindraf was not a
    registered organisation, the ministry's legal unit would look at the
    technicality of disbanding the group.

    He said Hindraf had on many occasions created unrest within the community,
    citing the recent gate-crashing of the prime minister and cabinet's Hari
    Raya open house as an example.

    Abdul Aziz said Hindraf's insolence could not be tolerated as it had angered
    many, especially Muslims who felt Hindraf had marred the spirit of the Hari
    Raya.

    ...............

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/i...ill-be-futile-

    Banning Hindraf will be futile
    By Baradan Kuppusamy

    KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 11 - Going by the increasingly alarming comments from
    national leaders it appears the government is set to move against Hindraf,
    an unregistered, chaotic group that was founded two years ago in Seremban to
    defend temples from demolition by local authorities.

    The government is currently weighing the type of action that can be taken
    against Hindraf, insiders said, adding the movement is now officially seen
    as extremist and a threat to national security and the personal security of
    national leaders.
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    Re: HINDRAF: ACTION BY GOVT TO BE TAKEN UNDER SOCIETIES ACT

    they are looking ways to get rid of Hindraf and any excuse they get, they will use it. Hindraf barge into the open house they claim thus need to ban cos Hindraf needs to be checked as they have lots of support which Sany will love to have.How many times has UMNO barge into closed forum and cause a ruckus.UMNO is showing everyone the way. But it is always double standard, UMNO can but others can't. Ban or not, what Hindraf has started will continue and BN/UMNO can't stop what they have started unless they treat people with respect like they would like to be treated in return.

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    HINDRAF: GARLAND PRESENTED TO PM-IN-WAITING

    Contrast the reception HINDRAF received from Anwar. This afternoon (12 Oct 0, HINDRAF presented a garland to Anwar Ibrahim at his open house at Kelab Sultan Sulaiman, Kg Baru.

    No "biadab" (insolence).

    No security or police blocking their entrance.

    That is how leaders should treat the people - with respect!
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    Hindraf demonised: Polishing the devil’s horns

    Sunday, 12 October 2008 12:34 By Helen Ang

    An alert should go out to embassies in Kuala Lumpur cautioning foreign nationals. The updated travel advisory:

    (1) Open houses in Malaysia are possibly illegal,
    (2) If a tourist should saunter into the premises, he may be guilty of trespassing,
    (3) A tour group could be banned by Malaysian authorities for unbecoming behaviour, such as all its members wearing uniform attire,
    (4) Cops on duty at open houses will confiscate a greeting card and such other contraband, as well as
    (5) Summon to police headquarters for questioning if someone attended open house but rejected refreshments, did not shake hands with the VIP host and failed to extend festive wishes.

    http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/13715/84/
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    Re: HINDRAF: GARLAND PRESENTED TO PM-IN-WAITING

    Quote Originally Posted by pywong
    Contrast the reception HINDRAF received from Anwar. This afternoon (12 Oct 0, HINDRAF presented a garland to Anwar Ibrahim at his open house at Kelab Sultan Sulaiman, Kg Baru.

    No "biadab" (insolence).

    No security or police blocking their entrance.

    That is how leaders should treat the people - with respect!
    respect is earned and Najib doesn't understand that. He expects every to kiss his hands and feet like those in UMNO. well dear DPM, they are looking for contracts and position, we are not thus we can be civilized but we do not need to respect you.Soon you guys will wnt to be treated like royalty. WE may respect the position you are holding. Do not be confused with aku janji forms that civil servants are forced to sign. The rakyat's loyalty is to King and Country. Not the gomen of the day who are the servants of the rakyat paid by rakyat taxes!! You guys seem to think you are 1st Family...syok sendiri la. :P

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    A Tale of 2 Govts - Old BN vs New PR

    “Hindraf did not and will not ever insult our Malay Brethren”
    14 10 2008

    The article below was circulated in the email by Sambulingam Wisvalingam, Hindraf National Coordination Team, today:

    Two similar occasions, one was the PWTC Open House hosted by our PM, the other Hari Raya Open House hosted by Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim and yet how different the treatment…

    The very same 6years old Vwaishnavi, daughter of Hindraf chairman P.Waythamoorthy with the almost similar home made, Hari Raya greeting card carrying the same message accompanied by a teddy bear.

    The same Hindraf supporters of approximately 200 members, in their now familiar, orange Tee shirts.

    The very same occasion of Hari Raya open house but only this time hosted by the opposition leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim at Kampung Baru, Kuala Lumpur on 12th October 2008.

    http://sloone.wordpress.com/2008/10/...alay-brethren/
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    So they use the police to threaten HINDRAF

    Such tactics are passe. The Indians have been so marginalised that they have nothing to lose anymore. Using threats and harassment as such against them is going to be counter-productive.

    Hello, UMNO. It won't work! How about trying LOVE?

    Cops probe commotion at PM’s Raya open house
    Posted by St Low
    Wednesday, 15 October 2008 08:52

    PETALING JAYA: Police have re*corded statements from three Hindraf organisers regarding a commotion at the Prime Minister and Cabinet members’ Hari Raya open house at the Putra World Trade Centre recently.

    The three are S. Jayathas, 41, K. Shanti, in her 30s, and K. Selvam, 43. They were accompanied by their lawyers Latheefa Koya and N. Surendran.

    Shanti is the wife of Hindraf chairman P. Waythamoorthy who is in self-exile in London.

    The three arrived at the Dang Wangi district police headquarters at 3pm yesterday where they gave their statements for an hour.

    Surendran said the three were asked about 28 questions under Section 27 of the Police Act and Section 447 of the Penal Code.

    “However, we chose to remain silent for each of the questions because we felt that the questions had nothing to do with the case we were being investigated under,” said Jayathas.

    Surendran said the questioning was a form of intimidation and harassment against his clients who had gathered peacefully at the Prime Minister’s Hari Raya open house.

    “It is absurd because for the first time in Malaysia someone is called in for questioning for attending a Hari Raya open house. We believe this is politically motivated and a clear case of police abuse of power,” he said.

    http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/13829/84/
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