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    Mumbai blast. Something's bubbling in the horizon

    Watch this. It can have a big effect on the financial market if hostilities breaks out between Pakistan and India. Worse yet if it involves nuclear weapoons.

    Stratfor: Mumbai attacks could lead to nuclear crisis

    AUSTIN, Nov 27 – If the Nov. 26 attacks in Mumbai were carried out by Islamist militants as it appears, the Indian government will have little choice, politically speaking, but to blame them on Pakistan.

    That will, in turn, spark a crisis between the two nuclear rivals that will draw the United States into the fray, the US-based Strategic Forecasting (Stratfor) said today.

    At this point the situation on the ground in Mumbai remains unclear following the militant attacks of Nov 26.

    But in order to understand the geopolitical significance of what is going on, it is necessary to begin looking beyond this event at what will follow. Though the situation is still in motion, the likely consequences of the attack are less murky.

    We will begin by assuming that the attackers are Islamist militant groups operating in India, possibly with some level of outside support from Pakistan. We can also see quite clearly that this was a carefully planned, well-executed attack

    Given this, the Indian government has two choices. First, it can simply say that the perpetrators are a domestic group. In that case, it will be held accountable for a failure of enormous proportions in security and law enforcement. It will be charged with being unable to protect the public.

    On the other hand, it can link the attack to an outside power: Pakistan. In that case it can hold a nation-state responsible for the attack, and can use the crisis atmosphere to strengthen the government's internal position by invoking nationalism.

    Politically, this is a much preferable outcome for the Indian government, and so it is the most likely course of action. This is not to say that there are no outside powers involved – simply that, regardless of the ground truth, the Indian government will claim there were.

    That, in turn, will plunge India and Pakistan into the worst crisis they have had since 2002. If the Pakistanis are understood to be responsible for the attack, then the Indians must hold them responsible, and that means they will have to take action in retaliation — otherwise, the Indian government's domestic credibility will plunge.

    The shape of the crisis, then, will consist of demands that the Pakistanis take immediate steps to suppress Islamist radicals across the board, but particularly in Kashmir.

    New Delhi will demand that this action be immediate and public. This demand will come parallel to US demands for the same actions, and threats by incoming US President Barack Obama to force greater cooperation from Pakistan.

    If that happens, Pakistan will find itself in a nutcracker. On the one side, the Indians will be threatening action – deliberately vague but menacing – along with the Americans.

    This will be even more intense if it turns out, as currently seems likely, that Americans and Europeans were being held hostage (or worse) in the two hotels that were attacked.

    If the attacks are traced to Pakistan, American demands will escalate well in advance of inauguration day.

    There is a precedent for this. In 2002, there was an attack on the Indian parliament in Mumbai by Islamist militants linked to Pakistan. A near-nuclear confrontation took place between India and Pakistan, in which the United States brokered a stand-down in return for intensified Pakistani pressure on the Islamists.

    That crisis helped redefine the Pakistani position on Islamist radicals in Pakistan.

    In the current iteration, the demands will be even more intense. The Indians and Americans will have a joint interest in forcing the Pakistani government to act decisively and immediately.

    The Pakistani government has warned that such pressure could destabilise Pakistan.

    The Indians will not be in a position to moderate their position, and the Americans will see the situation as an opportunity to extract major concessions. Thus the crisis will directly intersect US and Nato operations in Afghanistan.

    It is not clear the degree to which the Pakistani government can control the situation.

    But the Indians will have no choice but to be assertive, and the United States will move along the same line. Whether it is the current government in India that reacts, or one that succeeds doesn't matter. Either way, India is under enormous pressure to respond.

    Therefore the events point to a serious crisis, not simply between Pakistan and India, but within Pakistan as well, with the government caught between foreign powers and domestic realities. Given the circumstances, massive destabilisation is possible – never a good thing with a nuclear power.

    This is thinking far ahead of the curve, and is based on an assumption of the truth of something we don't know for certain yet – which is that the attackers were Muslims and that the Pakistanis will not be able to demonstrate categorically that they weren't involved.

    Since we suspect they were Muslims, and since we doubt the Pakistanis can be categorical and convincing enough to thwart Indian demands, we suspect that we will be deep into a crisis within the next few days, very shortly after the situation on the ground clarifies itself. - Strategic Forecasting

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    Rat Race's Perspective

    If we consider this incident from the Rat Race perspective, this is how it looks:

    1. Ruling Class supported by the army trying to control the masses.
    2. A part of the Rats from a minority group are rebelling against the Ruling Class.
    3. These Rats could be using religion to promote their agenda which is basically a grab for power.
    4. The Ruling Class does not want it to be considered this as an internal matter as politically it could be very troublesome, so they create a bogeyman - foreign country, to distract the Rats.
    5. The army does not really want peace as unrest gives them more power.
    6. A favourite tactic of the Ruling Class is to use fear to cow the Rats. They play on the Rat's fear to reduce their civil liberties because fundamentally, all Ruling Classes throughout the world, treat their own Rats as potential enemies.
    7. The MSM plays along as it is good for business.

    Bottom line: Greed.

    Mumbai terror attacks
    Oberoi siege ended

    Nov 28, 2008 7:51 PM

    Indian commandos are airdropped in Nariman House, where the armed militants
    are believed to be holed out.
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    LATEST: Top security official said a total of eight foreigners were killed
    and 22 others injured. Police chief says operations at Jewish centre still
    going on, but in final stages

    http://www.straitst Breaking% 2BNews/Asia/ Story/STIStory_ 307791.html

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    Mumbai Gripped by Fear

    Observe the exploitation of fear by the MSM.

    Asian Wall Street Journal

    Mumbai Gripped by Fear
    Death Toll Tops 150 as Militants Cornered; New Tactics in Terror

    MUMBAI -- Indian commandoes overpowered more than a dozen suspected
    Islamic militants in luxury hotels and a Jewish center in southern
    Mumbai, seeking to end a three-night siege that has created the
    specter of a new type of terrorism and left India's biggest city
    gripped by fear.

    Read on... http://online.

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