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  1. #21
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    The Malaysian psyche

    Only in Bolehland. I can confirm that the last question "Is it a carnival?" is true.

    I saw one UMNO outfit enjoying grapes in a building that looked like an Islamic institution.

    30 men with one sniffer dog was searching for bodies while another area which had a very strong stench was not searched. There were probably another 30 guarding the access roads. Meanwhile, there were probably around 2000 people hanging around. Yup, it was definitely a carnival.

    Both UMNO and PKR people were around to cover the political ground, I suppose.


    Raja Petra Kamarudin

    Invariably, being wives of Wakil Rakyat, they were all wearing tons of gold and jewellery and the rescuers had a gala time ‘relieving’ the dead and badly injured of their valuables.

    Rescuers were cold hearted

    Police To Investigate Victim's Complain Against Rescue Team

    'She would be alive if they had helped'

    'They treated her like a dead dog'

    Police chief: 'I don't believe'

    Is it a carnival?

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    Class 4 hill projects banned by FT Ministery

    The Cabinet has nothing better to do. Now they are poking their noses into housing development. These guys have really lost it.

    Class 4 hill projects banned by FT Ministery

    PUTRAJAYA, Dec 12 - Hillside projects Class 4 slopes have been banned while a projects on Class 3 slopes have been frozen temporarily by the Federal Territory Ministry.

    Its minister, Datuk Seri Zulhasnan Rafique also said that a Cabinet decision on the controversial Damansara 21 project would be made soon.

    The ministry, he said, had ordered a halt on structural works there but would allow the slope-strengthening works to continue.

    Class 3 slopes have a gradient of between 25-35 degree and Class 4 slopes are more than 35 degrees

    Construction of serviced apartments at Bukit Ceylon have also been stopped and the developer has been ordered to take measures to prevent soil erosion.

    On the the Bukit Gasing bungalow project, he said that the DBKL has deferred any decision on the matter after a legal suit was filed by the residents.

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    Landslide site closed immediately after PWD warning

    I wonder how IKRAM has suddenly become so perceptive. My understanding is that they were involved in monitoring the site before the collapse. How is it that they never issued any warning to the residents then? Four lives could have been saved, along with many vehicles and valuables.

    How is it that IKRAM has suddenly become Public Works Institute of Malaysia? They are just another one of those privatised monopolies set up by Daim.

    Landslide site closed immediately after PWD warning

    KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 12 - The landslide site at Taman Bukit Mewah, Bukit Antarabangsa, was closed immediately after the Public Works Department (PWD) issued a warning that the area was not safe and very dangerous.

    Selangor chief police officer, Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar, said the warning was issued at noon today.

    "Results of a PWD and Public Works Institute of Malaysia (Ikram) study show that the 10ha site is not safe for people, including for the search and rescue (SAR) personnel. Its totally prohibited.

    "Police have sealed the place and have taken full control of the area and the Police Air Wing will monitor the area periodically," he told reporters here today.

    Khalid said the PWD and Ikram will issue a full report on the safety status on Dec 19.

    However, Khalid said a small teamm comprising SAR personnel from the Fire and Rescue Services Department and the Special Malaysia Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team (Smart) will be stationed there for any eventuality.

    He said residents from five areas - Taman Bukit Mewah; Jalan 9 and Jalan 11, Taman Wangsa Ukay; Jalan 6 Taman Bukit Jaya; and Kondominium Impian Selatan who were asked to move out could remove their belongings using temporary passes.

    Meanwhile, a permanent bridge being built by the PWD will be ready by 6am tomorrow.

    Besides that Khalid said works for an alternative route by the army will begin at midnight tonight until 6am tomorrow.

    "Also road repair works and tarring will be done over two days," he said.

    "People who want additional information can read notices posted at agencies' operations posts or meet the duty officer at the operations room," he said.

    Khalid said the main focus now was on the rehabilitation phase and that will be monitored by the Gombak District Officer, Huzaini Samsi.

    He said till now the police had received 102 complaints by local residents on destruction and loss of property. - Bernama

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    Don’t blame others for mishaps, Pak Lah tells Selangor govt

    We have inspected the site. We know where the fault lies.

    Our report is supposed to be with Khalid Ibrahim. If we don't see any action from him in 10 days, we will publish it here.

    Don’t blame others for mishaps, Pak Lah tells Selangor govt

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    Friday, 12 December 2008 09:14

    (The Star) JAKARTA: Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has hit out at the Selangor Government for apparently trying to wash its hands of the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide tragedy.

    The Prime Minister said the Pakatan Rakyat government should accept responsibility and correct any mistakes or weaknesses which have occurred.

    “This is not the way to govern – taking credit only for the good things and blaming others for the mishaps.

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    Re: Hillside Development

    So, our Minister of local Housing and Development is excused of any blame, when he says that the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide is not the result of human negligence. But, on the other hand, our beloved current YAB PM Abdullah Badawi is saying that the State Government should take responsibility and not blame others... How do we reconcile the differences in the approach to a common issue?

    It is obvious that when the BN was ruling the state government, we have never heard him make that kind of statement. Now that the PR Government is ruling the State in Selangor, he has conveniently forgotten that the BN-ruled Federal Government has never said such a thing during his time, neither in his predessor's time. If he is really sincere about what he said, he should have voiced it out during his predecessor's time as well. But, have we heard him said anything like that?

    How conveniently nice?
    On his blog, our MP LKS posted his take... read it here or
    Blog Statement by Lim Kit Siang on Sunday, 7th December 2008:
    Bukit Antarabangsa landslide disaster – criminal negligence after Highland Towers tragedy 15 years ago

    The Bukit Antarabangsa landslide disaster yesterday, claiming at least five lives, injuring at least 15 and dislocating thousands of residents after destroying 14 bungalows, is sheer criminal negligence after the Highland Towers tragedy which killed 48 people 15 years ago.

    Clearly, the lessons of the Highland Towers tragedy 15 years ago have not been learnt by anyone, least of all the various government agencies, whether at the federal, state or local government level.

    The Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi yesterday lamented that “Malaysians never want to learnt from past experiences” – “They want good views while developers only seek to profit; but no one takes safety and soil stability into consideration”.

    Conspicuously absent from Abdullah’s blame list are the various government agencies and authorities who should be even more culpable in giving approvals or closing an eye to dangerous hillside developments and in totally ignoring the lessons of the Highland Towers tragedy 15 years ago.

    I visited the site of the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide tragedy this morning together with several DAP MPs – Dr. Tan Seng Giaw (Kepong), Fong Kui Lun (Bukit Bintang), Lim Lip Eng (Segambut), Teo Nie Ching (Serdang) – Selangor State Exco Member Ean Yong Hian Wah (Seri Kembangan) and Lee Ying Ha (Teratai) and I was shocked that the Minister for Housing and Local Government, Datuk Ong Ka Chuan had still to make his appearance at the site although it was more than 24 hours after the tragedy.

    When the Highland Towers tragedy occurred on Dec. 11, 1993, the then Housing and Local Government Minister, Datuk Dr. Ting Chew Peh, was immediately on the scene and stayed for hours. Where is Ong Ka Chuan?

    Parliament must prove its relevance by having an immediate debate on why the lessons of the Highland Towers tragedy 15 years ago have not been learnt or the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide disaster yesterday would not have happened.

    MPs from both the Barisan Nasional and Pakatan Rakyat should speak loud end clear in Parliament on Wednesday to express their condemnation of the criminal negligence which had failed to learn from the Highland Towers tragedy to prevent the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide disaster yesterday.

    I call on Ka Chdua to work with the Works Minister and the Environment Minister to present a ministerial statement on the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide tragedy in Parliament when MPs reconvene on Wednesday and to ensure that his ministerial statement is followed by a full parliamentary debate.

    A Royal Commission of Inquiry should be established to inquire not only into the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide tragedy, but even more important, why the lessons of the Highland Towers tragedy 15 years ago have not been learnt by all the parties concerned, including the federal, state and local government authorities as to prevent yesterday’s tragedy from happening.


    * Lim Kit Siang, DAP Parliamentary leader & MP for Ipoh Timor

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    Pay for your follies

    Citizen Nades - By R. Nadeswaran ( Every Monday & Wednesday )

    Pay for your follies
    Updated: 10:14AM Mon, 15 Dec 2008

    Bukit Antarabangsa residents who were victims of Saturday's
    landslide will be taking legal action against the authorities. The
    committee will get legal advice on the matter as they have strong
    evidence to pursue their claims. I don't want to reveal what it is
    now, but we have photographs and copies of complaints made
    to the local authority.
    - Bukit Antarabangsa Action Committee chairman Datuk N. Muneandy.

    The state authority, local authority and any public officer or officer
    or employee of the local authority shall not be subject to any action,
    claim, liabilities or demand whatsoever arising out of any building
    or other works carried out in accordance with the provision of this
    Act or any by-laws made thereunder or by reason of the fact that
    such building works or the plans thereof are subject to inspection
    and approval by the state authority, local authority, or such public
    officer or officer or employee of the state authority or the local
    authority and nothing in this Act or any by-laws made thereunder
    shall make it obligatory for the state authority or the local authority
    to inspect any building, building works or materials or the site of
    any proposed building to ascertain that the provisions of this Act
    or any by-laws made thereunder are complied with or that plans,
    certificates and notices submitted to him are accurate.
    - Section 95(2) of the Street, Drainage and Buildings Act.

    THEY want to sue, but the law gives the wrongdoers, in this case the Ampang
    Jaya Municipal Council (MPAJ) immunity from liability. In the Highland
    Towers case involving the same local council, a three-member panel presided
    by the then Chief Judge of Sabah and Sarawak Justice Steve Shim Lip Kiong
    and Federal Court judges Datuk Abdul Hamid Mohamed and Datuk Arifin Zakaria
    ruled that the MPAJ was not liable in the pre-collapse period as well as
    post-collapse period of Block One of the towers.

    They said local authorities such as the MPAJ were given full immunity under
    Section 95 (2) of the Street, Drainage & Building Act 1974 (Act 133) from
    claims for the pre-collapse period.

    Justice Abdul Hamid Mohamad said that if the local councils were made
    liable, it would open the floodgates to further claims for economic loss,
    and this would deplete the council's resources meant for the provision of
    basic services and infrastructure.

    "Projects will stall. The local council may go bust. Even if it does not, is
    it fair, just and reasonable that taxpayers' money be utilised to pay the
    'debts' of such people? In my view, the answer is no," he said.

    "In my view, the provision of basic necessities for the general public has
    priority over compensation for pure economic loss of some individuals, who
    are clearly better off than the majority of the residents in the local
    council area," he said.

    He said a local council has an endless list of duties to perform for its
    residents and relied mainly on assessment rates and fees for licences.

    In his dissenting judgment on the post-collapse liability, Justice Shim said
    the MPAJ could not seek shelter because this was a case of negligence in
    failing to formulate and implement the master drainage plan so as to ensure
    the stability and safety of the adjacent Blocks Two and Three. He said there
    was an assumption of responsibility by the MPAJ to do what it had promised.

    "I do not think it would be in the public interest that a local authority
    such as the MPAJ should be allowed to disclaim liability for negligence
    committed beyond the expansive shelter of the law or other relevant
    provisions of the Act nor would it be fair, just and reasonable to deprive
    the respondents of their rightful claims under the law," he said.

    I would want to agree with Justice Shim. The simple reason that some of the
    people in the council are acting with impunity is because of the immunity.
    They don't care if their decisions cause inconvenience, economic losses,
    damage, injury or even death. As far as they are concerned, they can line
    their pockets with their Napoleonastic decisions, but they cannot be liable
    and that their fat bank accounts cannot be touched.

    As I write these words, I am staring at a bundle of documents in which the
    (then) Petaling Jaya Municipal Council had authorised the trespass and
    occupation of private land. The case is before the courts and commenting on
    it would only invite the vultures who want to feast on what I write, but I
    care two hoots for the convicted felons and bribe-givers who think Terence
    Fernandez is easy-picking.

    In this instance, the trespasser is being sued and his defence is that MPPJ
    authorised the trespass. While MPAJ is not a party to the suit and if and
    when it becomes an intervener or a third party, the Section 95 defence would
    be the only option.

    Having said that, I want to question the wisdom of the people who
    incorporated this "do wrong and get away with it" clause in this very
    important piece of legislation. The Federal Court decision in the case of
    Steven Phoa and Others v Ampang Jaya Municipal Council further encouraged
    the corrupt practices, the high-handedness and the lawlessness of some
    council officials, including presidents, who enter into one-sided agreements
    with total disregard for the interests of the council's coffers or the

    If this 2-1 decision is a precedent, then it gives the people in power to
    enter into millions, if not billion-ringgit deals; collect their commissions
    and be immune from prosecution or other forms of action by those who suffer
    as a result of such decisions.

    It is understandable if a decision is made inadvertently or on the basis of
    an oversight, which then becomes a mitigating factor. However, when it is
    done deliberately (perhaps for a fistful of ringgit) or with full knowledge
    of its implications or negligently, there should be no protection.

    It is ironic, immoral and unacceptable that we have a law that protects the
    corrupt and the wrongdoers. While attempts are made to have emergency
    motions debated in Parliament, it is hoped that one of our MPs will have the
    moral conviction to introduce a Private Bill to amend the Act, should the
    government fail to listen to the clarion call of the people.
    R. Nadeswaran agrees with the Charles Dickens character who uttered that
    "the law is an ass". He hopes our lawmakers will not only look into this
    clause but other obsolete and ridiculous ones in our statute books. He is
    editor (special and investigative reporting) and can be reached at:

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    In the Chinese Media: Soi Lek speaks up
    In the Chinese Media: Soi Lek speaks up
    15 Dec 08 : 8.00AM Translation by Leong Lai Ming

    FOR the week of 6 to 12 Dec 2008, the Chinese press highlighted the issue of
    responsibility over the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide and reactions towards
    Tan Sri Dr Khoo Kay Kim's statement that minority races should give up their
    mother tongue. The Chinese press also looked at a brewing fishing-community

    In a 12 Dec report, Oriental Daily quoted MCA deputy president Datuk Seri Dr
    Chua Soi Lek as criticising Housing and Local Government Minister Datuk Seri
    Ong Ka Chuan and Information Minister Datuk Ahmad Shabery Cheek for their
    remarks over the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide.

    Chua said the ministers were being irresponsible by saying the landslide was
    "a natural disaster and fate".

    "I think this is quite wrong. Landslides are possibly caused by problems
    related to structure, buildings or maintenance. These elements, I fear, are
    human induced. The heavy rains merely accelerated the problems planted by
    human factors," the former health minister said.

    "Whenever there are landslides, the relevant authorities give lame excuses
    and nobody dares to claim responsibility," he said. He added that the
    government should look into the issue of who should be responsible in times
    like these.

    Chua, who is also the head of MCA's government policy monitoring bureau,
    said: "Malaysia's high-rises are built by A-class experts, but when it comes
    to landslides, nobody comes forth to claim responsibility, pointing fingers
    at each other... please save us the drama."

    He said the authorities should instead look at proper guidelines and not
    point fingers. He also advised home buyers to be careful when choosing
    property. He stressed that structural problems may only occur after 20

    Chua added that there were 13 cases of landslides within the last 15 years,
    five of which were severe including the Bukit Antarabangsa tragedy.

    As for Ahmad Shabery's view that home buyers should also be responsible for
    the landslide, Chua argued, "Consumers like you and I are not experts. If
    the government approved the house as safe, certainly we would think it was

    He pointed out that according to hillside development guidelines, high-rises
    should not be built on slopes with a gradient of more than 35 degrees.
    "However some A-class experts cut down trees so that these slopes fulfill
    the guidelines for high-rises to be built."

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    Slope warning system in the pipeline

    Slope warning system in the pipeline

    Monday December 15, 2008

    PUTRAJAYA: An early warning system - much like the one used for tsunami
    alerts - may be put into place at certain areas following the recent Bukit
    Antarabangsa tragedy.

    Science, Technology and Innovation Minister Datuk Dr Maximus Ongkili said
    the Public Works Department and a private company once had a pilot project
    for such a warning system.

    "It uses computer technology and electronic sensors to give an early
    indication of slope movement. We plan to review the results of the pilot
    project again to see if we can revive it.

    "We will ask the private sector to put in a proposal and find the funds to
    invest and further develop the initial project," he told reporters, after
    attending the ministry's Family Day at Precinct 9 here yesterday.

    The landslide in Bukit Antarabangsa on Dec 6 killed four people and injured
    14 others, while a Sri Lankan maid remains missing.

    Buoys were put up at various points along Malaysia's coastline as an early
    warning system after an earthquake in Sumatra triggered a tsunami, killing
    hundreds of thousands people in the region in December 2004.

    Antarabangsa residents want some answers

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    Works Minister Mohd Zin: RM70m for slope repair, work to start next week

    Out of the way! Out of the way! Cover up coming up.

    So our dear minister is trying to blame the landslide on deforestation, when it is manifestly clear and in the public record that landslides have occurred in this area in the past and the previous BN Selangor State Govts were negligent and maybe, even complicit, in not remedying it.

    Now the Federal Govt will pump in RM 70 million to cover up the mess and hope the public will forget the past.

    The landslide is due to poor earthworks construction and lack of enforcement by the previous State Govts and not due to deforestation!

    Mohd Zin said the study conducted by the ministry showed that the slope was the result of deforestation since 1968, therefore the landslide was a "man-made error".

    Bkt Antarabangsa: RM70m for slope repair, work to start next week

    by Giam Say Khoon

    KUALA LUMPUR (Feb 20, 2009): Ten weeks after a massive landslide that shook Bukit Antarabangsa and killed four people, the government today approved an allocation of RM70 million to repair and reinforce the collapsed slopes so that residents can move back.

    Works Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Zin Mohamed said priority will be given to the area where 44 houses are declared unsafe, and work will start as early as next week.


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    Re: Hillside Development - Residents not surprised burst pipe triggered slide

    Residents not surprised burst pipe triggered Bukit Antarabangsa landslide

    By Neville Spykerman

    SHAH ALAM, Nov 22 — Residents in Bukit Antarabangsa are not surprised that a burst pipe caused last Dec 6’s killer landslide as the leafy suburb has always been waterlogged despite a lack of rain.

    But they might have to wait longer than tomorrow to get their hands on the results of the investigation into the landslide that killed five, destroyed 14 bungalows and cost millions of ringgit in losses and expenses as there are moves to overturn the Selangor state government decision to declassify the report.

    Selangor state executive councillor Elizabeth Wong told The Malaysian Insider the state is ready to defend Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim's decision to declassify the Bukit Antarabangsa landslide report under the Official Secrets Act (OSA).

    His decision last Wednesday prompted Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Liew Vui Keong to say the Selangor Mentri Besar “may” have acted beyond his jurisdiction as only the agency that prepared the report can declassify it. TheMalaysiaInsider....

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