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    SPR: Bar Council - Post-Election Series Seminar

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    2. Electoral Fraud

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    [MBar] Circular No 154/2013: Post-Election Series Seminar | Electoral Reforms — Out with the Old, In with the New? (13 July 2013)

    The speakers and topics are:

    Morning

    (1) Wong Piang Yow,Founder, Tindak Malaysia: Tindak Malaysia’s proposed reforms and the electoral models that are practised in other countries;
    (2) Nurul Izzah Anwar,Member of Parliament: Pakatan Rakyat’s view on PSC’s recommendation as well as the proposed electoral reforms(TBC);


    Afternoon
    (3) Ambiga Sreenevasan, Co-Chairperson, BERSIH 2.0: The proposed electoral reforms by BERSIH 2.0;
    and
    (4) Datuk Dr P Manogran, Member, Election Commission: The Election Commission’s response to the proposed electoral reforms, and their plans in improving public confidence (TBC).
    (3) Datuk Seri Dr Maximus Ongkili,Minister, Ministry of Energy, Green Technology and Water: What has been done by the Government following the Parliamentary Select Committee (“PSC”)’s recommendations (No show. Too chicken.);

    For more details or to register, kindly contact Anusha Gopala Krishnan (03-2050 2097; anusha@malaysianbar.org.my) or Mohd Fazli Rosman (03-2050 2105; fazli@malaysianbar.org.my).

    Presentation by Tindak Malaysia

    Folder: Campaign/Bar Council:
    BarCouncilForum#3_VariousElectoralSystems&TMPropos als_130713.pptx

    Folder: SPR/Reform:
    App1_IPU_ffelections_en_2004EvaluationTables1-3 incl Msia_110713.pdf
    App2_IDEA2005SurveyOfElectoralSystems&Glossary_120 713.pdf
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    Razak Baginda's daughter spars with NGO over race

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    Eyebrows shot at a forum today when political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda's daughter sparred with Tindak Malaysia's leader over race and electoral reform.

    The smartly-dressed woman, who introduced herself as Rowena, had queried Tindak Malaysia chief Wong Piang Yow over the absence of race in his presentation of proposed electoral reforms at a Bar Council forum in Kuala Lumpur.

    She noted that Malaysians still voted along racial lines and asked how could the minority community protect the Malay majority's status.

    "If you look at Bahrain, you have a Sunni minority government and they are unable to protect the majority Shiites. In Malaysia, you are proposing something where the minority would be empowered, how then do you protect the rights of the majority," Rowena (left) asked.

    Wong said the question was strange, stating that it was the norm for the majority to protect the minority and not other way round.

    "The majority race, throughout the world, will usually produce the prime minister.

    "You are asking how the minority can protect the majority - the minority cannot even protect themselves, how can they protect others?" he said.

    Rowena's question appeared to rile up some members of the audience as a couple of elderly women began openly criticising her.

    She then asked Wong how many Malays were in Tindak Malaysia, an electoral reforms pressure group, to which he replied less than 10 percent.

    "I'm pointing out, you are not representing Malaysia as a whole, if the population of the majority are Malays and you have only less than 10 percent of Malays, that is fundamentally wrong," she said.

    Abdul Razak was an instrumental figure in the procurement of two submarines from France. He was also charged with and acquitted of abetting in the murder of Mongolian national Altantuya Shaariibuu.
    'Poverty hurts democracy'

    Responding to this, Wong said Tindak Malaysia comprised of volunteers who contribute their sweat and money without expectation and invited Rowena to join him, to which she declined.

    Earlier, Wong spoke at length about the various electoral systems in the country with a focus on the first-past-the-post system which Malaysia currently uses.

    Wong (left) added that his organisation had also engaged in projects such as chicken rearing to help uplift the poor community as democracy will take a back seat when people are hungry.

    "Poverty, we feel, is more important consideration for free and fair election," he said.

    However, the forum took a strange turn when the audience began to query more about the chicken-rearing project, and Rowena's mother Mazlinda who lashed out at her daughter's critics also joined the queue for questions.

    Sensing that the questions was going off course, Bar Council Human Rights Committee chief Andrew Khoo intervened and ask that the attention be focus on electoral reform.

    When it was Mazlinda's turn to ask her question, she merely said: "We're not here to talk about chicken" and went back to hear seat.
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    Perhaps tell Razak Baginda to return the loot first


    9:48AM Jul 14, 2013

    YOURSAY‘Rowena, since you seem concerned with fairness to the majority, perhaps you could convince a certain Razak Baginda to return the lucre.'

    Razak Baginda's daughter spars with NGO over race

    Vijay47: Whatever Ms Rowena Razak's credentials, whether she is racist or not, whether she is Western-educated or not, I cannot understand her question, profound and intellectual as it may sound.

    Where in Malaysia is there any effort by the minority to rule over the majority, let alone the need for the majority to be protected by the minority?

    As I read it, the objective is to form a government that represents all the races and institutes programmes for the benefit of yes, all the races.

    At the same time, there is the hope that the blatant corruption, abuses, and discrimination of more than 50 years will be brought to an end.

    Included in this goal is the ridding of the practice of giving out more than RM500 million to persons who only qualifications appear to be some intimacy with Umno leaders.

    Since you seem concerned with fairness to the majority, Ms Rowena, perhaps you could convince a certain Razak Baginda to return the lucre he and associates stole from the nation. After all, fair is fair.

    Onyourtoes: I always maintained that the battle in Malaysia today is not so much about race and religion.

    It is always between the vested interest groups and the people. It is always between the beneficiaries of corruption and the common people. It is always between the ruling elites as well as their cronies and the common people.

    It is always between the informed and the uninformed, between the aware and the ignorance and between the cleaver and the nincompoop. We know which side this daughter of his infamous father belongs to.

    This is what I often termed as blatantly and rampantly abusing their privileges and positions. You see, these people who were the beneficiaries of corruption, cronyism and nepotism (KKN) have never feel remorse or ashamed.

    They have inadvertently thought that it was their capability and ingenuity that brought them to where they are today. You know these people if without the connection and the largesse of the government, could not even earn a ringgit on their own.

    This are so many insults I want to hurl at them. Yes, don't for a minute think that because you can speak eloquently and are culturally astute, you are somebody.

    Pemerhati: Rowena's question indicates that she is or would make a good member of Perkasa, Malaysia's Ku Klux Klan.

    She cited an example from the Middle East where most of the governments are dictatorships and where the dictators there treat some of their citizens unfairly and cruelly.

    In proper democracies like say the United States or India, the leaders are selected in free and fair elections by all ethnic and religious groups and sometimes the people of the majority groups select capable leaders from the minority group to govern them.

    Malaysia in fact is also a dictatorship where the Umnoputras hold on to power through fraudulent elections and currently steal the people's money at the rate of about a billion dollars per week.

    They try to hold on to power by trying to influence the majority Malays with their racist rhetoric but many have wised up to these crooks and voted against them in the recent elections.

    BN now only has support from a minority of the electorate and is an illegitimate government.

    Aries46: Why does Rowena need the majority to be protected by the minority? Isn't it the other way round universally where the majority empowers the minority for the latter's self-protection?

    Anyway, aren't all of us equal citizens according the constitution? And haven't 51 percent of Malaysians rejected BN's racist divide-and-rule policies in GE13?

    So what majority race protection is this women babbling about? She seem to be stuck in her father's 'ketuanan' era of wine, women, song and illicit wealth.

    And for all her nonsensical braying, she's unable to differentiate our multicultural, multiracial and multi-religious society with the Sunni/Shiite religious sects in Bahrain.

    And someone mentioned that she is foreign educated. I certainly hope it was not at the expense of the long-suffering taxpayers.

    Appum: I read and re-read Rowena's question and statement, and I just can't make head or tail out of it. Am I daft or is she an Einstein?

    My conclusion is that her international schooling has made her brazen and bold enough to make a statement in public even if it is a senseless and flawed one and her upbringing and parents' infamy and being on the run had produced a confused mind.

    In a way, I feel sorry for her. But she's still young and hopefully will eventually mature mentally and emotionally. We have to be fair to her. She should not be held accountable for her father's misdeed.

    Cantabrigian: I don't see the point why Malaysiakini is making a story out this small issue. If what she did was not right or proper, why do we need to link her action with her father?

    Her question may sound silly to some, but she has a valid point: would the demographic in Tindak Malaysia reflect the NGO's intention to act on behalf of all Malaysians?

    If the NGO is dominated by a certain part of the Malaysian society, which in this case the minority groups of Malaysia, shouldn't it be called Tindak Minoriti rather than Tindak Malaysia?

    Making fun of Rowena does not make us any cleverer than her.

    SusahKes: Rowena, let's put it in perspective. How about "how can the majority ensure justice for the minority?"

    The murder of your dad's lover is but an example. The guys sentenced for the crime have no motive, but they are the ones facing the gallows.

    In Umno's way of running things - in which your dad was clearly established to be an errand boy (one who also enjoyed the attractions) - the majority rides roughshod over the minority.

    If you deem that Tindak Malaysia isn't representing Malaysia just because on that day, less than 10 percent of the audience were Malay, then you should also aim your question at Bersih and Black 505 rally participants - I'm pretty sure the Malays were in significant numbers on rally days.

    While you're at it, do you feel any compassion for Altantuya Shaariibuu? Her family is still looking for answers. That's where your dad's close friends in the system have failed.

    Look no further than your daddy - he's a product of that system.

    AnakPinang: Although a product of an international education, Rowena has not moved beyond the confines of viewing the world through racial lenses.

    Unfortunate, but true, it is the wealthy Malays who have the most to lose if privileges are taken away from them, not the poor Malay majority.

    Rowena continues her father's tradition of smoke and mirrors as befits an Umno crony.

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    Don't blame Rowena for her father's sins


    9:42AM Jul 14, 2013

    YOURSAY 'To princelings like Rowena Razak, fair play and rule of law are unimportant, especially if it undermines their special privileges.'

    Razak Baginda's daughter spars with NGO over race

    TehTarik: Nothing surprising here. The ruling elite and their children will do everything to protect their wealth and power.

    To princelings like Rowena Razak, fair play and rule of law are unimportant, especially if it undermines their special privileges.

    I have been disillusioned after speaking to many highly educated Malay elites and professionals who seem to share the same ideology - the need to protect the New Economic Policy (NEP) and Malay supremacy.

    While the ruling elite and their children continue to accumulate wealth the disparity between the rich and poor Malays continues to grow.

    I fear that the final game will be a clash between the small band of the ruling elite and the majority population of socio-economically deprived Malays.

    The latter is currently kept happy by the billions of ringgit in entitlements. But the increasing fiscal deficits and household debt indicates that the party is soon coming to an end.

    Mahashitla: The majority Malays in Malaysia are well-protected by the constitution and the monarchy, which consists of the Malay sultans and Agong.

    Not only has Umno, which is 100 percent bumiputeras, failed to treat the non-Malays fairly but the elites have enriched themselves so prohibitively that the majority of the Malays are living below the poverty line.

    Rowena, my advice to the ordinary Malays is to beware of Malays like your father, Abdul Razak Baginda and your mother, Mazlinda Makhzan, who owned companies involved in the RM500 million Scorpene commission.

    Altantuya Shaariibuu, your father's ex-lover, who came for her share of the commission was blown to pieces. They now have to be wary of you, too.

    Adam Adil: Rowena, a product of the ‘bumi first' policy, is trying to defend the indefensible.

    Firstly, the majority is supposed to look after the minority who are normally suppressed and oppressed in many ways.

    The minority Sunni group in Bahrain and Alawite group in Syria persecute and/or oppress the other majority religious group through the power of the gun and rule by their laws instead of through democratic means.
    As in Malaysia, we now have a minority government which is trying to suppress the majority (of all races and religions) who voted for change.

    Tindak Malaysia has done an excellent job in educating Malaysians of their responsibility to volunteer in the election process and to ensure free and fair elections.

    What has Rowena or her dad contributed to Malaysia except scandals of corruption and murder?

    Ferdtan: Knowing the psyche of typical desperate Umno Malay who had been ostracised or rather excommunicated from their mainstream community, they often use another minority race (Chinese) as bogeyman to win back support and ‘respect' from the Umno public.

    In this case, Rowena, daughter of the trial-freed suspect of a murder most foul, was probably and deliberately is making use of the Bar Council forum and the NGO, Tindak Malaysia, using race as bait, to announce her presence to the Malaysian public.

    For so many years since the murder trial, there was no news of her or her involvement in public issues. Nothing was known of her stand on such issues like racial politics.

    So why did she suddenly pop in her first public appearance with a rather naïve and controversial statement?

    Although we cannot blame her for her father's sins; but if she wants to remain true to herself and have a life of her own, she has to start with a clean slate. Don't play dirty politics in the bid to rid of your father's sin and baggage. It won't work.

    You can have your life back if you follow your true calling - speak your own mind. Marina Mahathir, no doubt many had rejected her due to the father she has, can still manage to strive out on her own, giving her opinions completely different from her father.

    Rowena, before you do another shocking stunt like that, please grow up first.

    PS: I agree, leave her father out of the discussion. Rowena made a point in a forum and she deserves a decent answer. Attack her point not her personal affiliations or relationship. Give her a good rebuttal.

    I believe Tindak Malaysia's objective was to bring greater awareness to Malaysians on issues of political-social-economic nature. I do not understand her rant on the racial composition of the NGO.

    I am sure it's a voluntary organisation with a constitution that does not stipulate any membership quota along racial lines, thus her question on this point is not quite right.

    However, her points regarding the minority ruling over the majority and voting along racial lines are valid and deserves a hearing from readers.

    In essence, if we take away the racial element in GE13, we should be wary of how a minority government rules over the majority Pakatan voters.

    Odin: First, do forgive me if I am not as intelligent as this woman. Without the benefit of hearing what was said at the forum, my take is that she questioned why Tindak Malaysia chief Wong Piang Yow did not mention race in his presentation.

    But, first, the forum discussed electoral reforms; therefore, why must race come into it? Second, two things the body avoids discussing are race and religion matters. Therefore, it should be obvious that Wong should not have touched on the matter of race.

    As to her assertion that Malaysians still voted along racial lines, I am lost, too. Surely many people of a particular race have voted for candidates of another one.

    Then we learn of her taking Bahrain as an example to prove her contention that the minority could not protect the rights of the majority. Did Wong say that the minority could do that?

    In any case, this example, to me, isn't quite appropriate, as the Shiites and Sunnis have always been at loggerheads, and therefore, why would the Sunnis there be bothered too much about the Shiites?

    I also completely fail to see what the percentage of Malays in Tindak Malaysia has got to do with the body's mission. Since she was concerned about the element, and as it is in her view lacking, why has she declined to join the body to help boost the Malay presence in it?

    The proper thing for her to do is to quickly gather all her Malay friends of her level of intelligence to join the body and show the "incompetent" members like Wong how to do things right.

    Absalom: Rowena, there are so many things wrong with your argument that you might have been better off asking about the chicken. By your reasoning, Barack Obama should not be president of the United States.

    It is not the minority protecting the majority that we ought to be worried about. It is about the lot of us Malaysians being protected from a mentality like yours.

    Anonymous #19895825: I am Malaysian. I am a minority. I do not need the protection of the majority. I need equality.




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