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    SPR: Bar Council - Post-Election Series Seminar

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    2. Electoral Fraud

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    [MBar] Circular No 154/2013: Post-Election Series Seminar | Electoral Reforms — Out with the Old, In with the New? (13 July 2013)

    The speakers and topics are:

    Morning

    (1) Wong Piang Yow,Founder, Tindak Malaysia: Tindak Malaysia’s proposed reforms and the electoral models that are practised in other countries;
    (2) Nurul Izzah Anwar,Member of Parliament: Pakatan Rakyat’s view on PSC’s recommendation as well as the proposed electoral reforms(TBC);


    Afternoon
    (3) Ambiga Sreenevasan, Co-Chairperson, BERSIH 2.0: The proposed electoral reforms by BERSIH 2.0;
    and
    (4) Datuk Dr P Manogran, Member, Election Commission: The Election Commission’s response to the proposed electoral reforms, and their plans in improving public confidence (TBC).
    (3) Datuk Seri Dr Maximus Ongkili,Minister, Ministry of Energy, Green Technology and Water: What has been done by the Government following the Parliamentary Select Committee (“PSC”)’s recommendations (No show. Too chicken.);

    For more details or to register, kindly contact Anusha Gopala Krishnan (03-2050 2097; anusha@malaysianbar.org.my) or Mohd Fazli Rosman (03-2050 2105; fazli@malaysianbar.org.my).

    Presentation by Tindak Malaysia

    Folder: Campaign/Bar Council:
    BarCouncilForum#3_VariousElectoralSystems&TMPropos als_130713.pptx

    Folder: SPR/Reform:
    App1_IPU_ffelections_en_2004EvaluationTables1-3 incl Msia_110713.pdf
    App2_IDEA2005SurveyOfElectoralSystems&Glossary_120 713.pdf
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    Razak Baginda's daughter spars with NGO over race

    http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/235567





    Eyebrows shot at a forum today when political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda's daughter sparred with Tindak Malaysia's leader over race and electoral reform.

    The smartly-dressed woman, who introduced herself as Rowena, had queried Tindak Malaysia chief Wong Piang Yow over the absence of race in his presentation of proposed electoral reforms at a Bar Council forum in Kuala Lumpur.

    She noted that Malaysians still voted along racial lines and asked how could the minority community protect the Malay majority's status.

    "If you look at Bahrain, you have a Sunni minority government and they are unable to protect the majority Shiites. In Malaysia, you are proposing something where the minority would be empowered, how then do you protect the rights of the majority," Rowena (left) asked.

    Wong said the question was strange, stating that it was the norm for the majority to protect the minority and not other way round.

    "The majority race, throughout the world, will usually produce the prime minister.

    "You are asking how the minority can protect the majority - the minority cannot even protect themselves, how can they protect others?" he said.

    Rowena's question appeared to rile up some members of the audience as a couple of elderly women began openly criticising her.

    She then asked Wong how many Malays were in Tindak Malaysia, an electoral reforms pressure group, to which he replied less than 10 percent.

    "I'm pointing out, you are not representing Malaysia as a whole, if the population of the majority are Malays and you have only less than 10 percent of Malays, that is fundamentally wrong," she said.

    Abdul Razak was an instrumental figure in the procurement of two submarines from France. He was also charged with and acquitted of abetting in the murder of Mongolian national Altantuya Shaariibuu.
    'Poverty hurts democracy'

    Responding to this, Wong said Tindak Malaysia comprised of volunteers who contribute their sweat and money without expectation and invited Rowena to join him, to which she declined.

    Earlier, Wong spoke at length about the various electoral systems in the country with a focus on the first-past-the-post system which Malaysia currently uses.

    Wong (left) added that his organisation had also engaged in projects such as chicken rearing to help uplift the poor community as democracy will take a back seat when people are hungry.

    "Poverty, we feel, is more important consideration for free and fair election," he said.

    However, the forum took a strange turn when the audience began to query more about the chicken-rearing project, and Rowena's mother Mazlinda who lashed out at her daughter's critics also joined the queue for questions.

    Sensing that the questions was going off course, Bar Council Human Rights Committee chief Andrew Khoo intervened and ask that the attention be focus on electoral reform.

    When it was Mazlinda's turn to ask her question, she merely said: "We're not here to talk about chicken" and went back to hear seat.
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    Perhaps tell Razak Baginda to return the loot first


    9:48AM Jul 14, 2013

    YOURSAY‘Rowena, since you seem concerned with fairness to the majority, perhaps you could convince a certain Razak Baginda to return the lucre.'

    Razak Baginda's daughter spars with NGO over race

    Vijay47: Whatever Ms Rowena Razak's credentials, whether she is racist or not, whether she is Western-educated or not, I cannot understand her question, profound and intellectual as it may sound.

    Where in Malaysia is there any effort by the minority to rule over the majority, let alone the need for the majority to be protected by the minority?

    As I read it, the objective is to form a government that represents all the races and institutes programmes for the benefit of yes, all the races.

    At the same time, there is the hope that the blatant corruption, abuses, and discrimination of more than 50 years will be brought to an end.

    Included in this goal is the ridding of the practice of giving out more than RM500 million to persons who only qualifications appear to be some intimacy with Umno leaders.

    Since you seem concerned with fairness to the majority, Ms Rowena, perhaps you could convince a certain Razak Baginda to return the lucre he and associates stole from the nation. After all, fair is fair.

    Onyourtoes: I always maintained that the battle in Malaysia today is not so much about race and religion.

    It is always between the vested interest groups and the people. It is always between the beneficiaries of corruption and the common people. It is always between the ruling elites as well as their cronies and the common people.

    It is always between the informed and the uninformed, between the aware and the ignorance and between the cleaver and the nincompoop. We know which side this daughter of his infamous father belongs to.

    This is what I often termed as blatantly and rampantly abusing their privileges and positions. You see, these people who were the beneficiaries of corruption, cronyism and nepotism (KKN) have never feel remorse or ashamed.

    They have inadvertently thought that it was their capability and ingenuity that brought them to where they are today. You know these people if without the connection and the largesse of the government, could not even earn a ringgit on their own.

    This are so many insults I want to hurl at them. Yes, don't for a minute think that because you can speak eloquently and are culturally astute, you are somebody.

    Pemerhati: Rowena's question indicates that she is or would make a good member of Perkasa, Malaysia's Ku Klux Klan.

    She cited an example from the Middle East where most of the governments are dictatorships and where the dictators there treat some of their citizens unfairly and cruelly.

    In proper democracies like say the United States or India, the leaders are selected in free and fair elections by all ethnic and religious groups and sometimes the people of the majority groups select capable leaders from the minority group to govern them.

    Malaysia in fact is also a dictatorship where the Umnoputras hold on to power through fraudulent elections and currently steal the people's money at the rate of about a billion dollars per week.

    They try to hold on to power by trying to influence the majority Malays with their racist rhetoric but many have wised up to these crooks and voted against them in the recent elections.

    BN now only has support from a minority of the electorate and is an illegitimate government.

    Aries46: Why does Rowena need the majority to be protected by the minority? Isn't it the other way round universally where the majority empowers the minority for the latter's self-protection?

    Anyway, aren't all of us equal citizens according the constitution? And haven't 51 percent of Malaysians rejected BN's racist divide-and-rule policies in GE13?

    So what majority race protection is this women babbling about? She seem to be stuck in her father's 'ketuanan' era of wine, women, song and illicit wealth.

    And for all her nonsensical braying, she's unable to differentiate our multicultural, multiracial and multi-religious society with the Sunni/Shiite religious sects in Bahrain.

    And someone mentioned that she is foreign educated. I certainly hope it was not at the expense of the long-suffering taxpayers.

    Appum: I read and re-read Rowena's question and statement, and I just can't make head or tail out of it. Am I daft or is she an Einstein?

    My conclusion is that her international schooling has made her brazen and bold enough to make a statement in public even if it is a senseless and flawed one and her upbringing and parents' infamy and being on the run had produced a confused mind.

    In a way, I feel sorry for her. But she's still young and hopefully will eventually mature mentally and emotionally. We have to be fair to her. She should not be held accountable for her father's misdeed.

    Cantabrigian: I don't see the point why Malaysiakini is making a story out this small issue. If what she did was not right or proper, why do we need to link her action with her father?

    Her question may sound silly to some, but she has a valid point: would the demographic in Tindak Malaysia reflect the NGO's intention to act on behalf of all Malaysians?

    If the NGO is dominated by a certain part of the Malaysian society, which in this case the minority groups of Malaysia, shouldn't it be called Tindak Minoriti rather than Tindak Malaysia?

    Making fun of Rowena does not make us any cleverer than her.

    SusahKes: Rowena, let's put it in perspective. How about "how can the majority ensure justice for the minority?"

    The murder of your dad's lover is but an example. The guys sentenced for the crime have no motive, but they are the ones facing the gallows.

    In Umno's way of running things - in which your dad was clearly established to be an errand boy (one who also enjoyed the attractions) - the majority rides roughshod over the minority.

    If you deem that Tindak Malaysia isn't representing Malaysia just because on that day, less than 10 percent of the audience were Malay, then you should also aim your question at Bersih and Black 505 rally participants - I'm pretty sure the Malays were in significant numbers on rally days.

    While you're at it, do you feel any compassion for Altantuya Shaariibuu? Her family is still looking for answers. That's where your dad's close friends in the system have failed.

    Look no further than your daddy - he's a product of that system.

    AnakPinang: Although a product of an international education, Rowena has not moved beyond the confines of viewing the world through racial lenses.

    Unfortunate, but true, it is the wealthy Malays who have the most to lose if privileges are taken away from them, not the poor Malay majority.

    Rowena continues her father's tradition of smoke and mirrors as befits an Umno crony.

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    Don't blame Rowena for her father's sins


    9:42AM Jul 14, 2013

    YOURSAY 'To princelings like Rowena Razak, fair play and rule of law are unimportant, especially if it undermines their special privileges.'

    Razak Baginda's daughter spars with NGO over race

    TehTarik: Nothing surprising here. The ruling elite and their children will do everything to protect their wealth and power.

    To princelings like Rowena Razak, fair play and rule of law are unimportant, especially if it undermines their special privileges.

    I have been disillusioned after speaking to many highly educated Malay elites and professionals who seem to share the same ideology - the need to protect the New Economic Policy (NEP) and Malay supremacy.

    While the ruling elite and their children continue to accumulate wealth the disparity between the rich and poor Malays continues to grow.

    I fear that the final game will be a clash between the small band of the ruling elite and the majority population of socio-economically deprived Malays.

    The latter is currently kept happy by the billions of ringgit in entitlements. But the increasing fiscal deficits and household debt indicates that the party is soon coming to an end.

    Mahashitla: The majority Malays in Malaysia are well-protected by the constitution and the monarchy, which consists of the Malay sultans and Agong.

    Not only has Umno, which is 100 percent bumiputeras, failed to treat the non-Malays fairly but the elites have enriched themselves so prohibitively that the majority of the Malays are living below the poverty line.

    Rowena, my advice to the ordinary Malays is to beware of Malays like your father, Abdul Razak Baginda and your mother, Mazlinda Makhzan, who owned companies involved in the RM500 million Scorpene commission.

    Altantuya Shaariibuu, your father's ex-lover, who came for her share of the commission was blown to pieces. They now have to be wary of you, too.

    Adam Adil: Rowena, a product of the ‘bumi first' policy, is trying to defend the indefensible.

    Firstly, the majority is supposed to look after the minority who are normally suppressed and oppressed in many ways.

    The minority Sunni group in Bahrain and Alawite group in Syria persecute and/or oppress the other majority religious group through the power of the gun and rule by their laws instead of through democratic means.
    As in Malaysia, we now have a minority government which is trying to suppress the majority (of all races and religions) who voted for change.

    Tindak Malaysia has done an excellent job in educating Malaysians of their responsibility to volunteer in the election process and to ensure free and fair elections.

    What has Rowena or her dad contributed to Malaysia except scandals of corruption and murder?

    Ferdtan: Knowing the psyche of typical desperate Umno Malay who had been ostracised or rather excommunicated from their mainstream community, they often use another minority race (Chinese) as bogeyman to win back support and ‘respect' from the Umno public.

    In this case, Rowena, daughter of the trial-freed suspect of a murder most foul, was probably and deliberately is making use of the Bar Council forum and the NGO, Tindak Malaysia, using race as bait, to announce her presence to the Malaysian public.

    For so many years since the murder trial, there was no news of her or her involvement in public issues. Nothing was known of her stand on such issues like racial politics.

    So why did she suddenly pop in her first public appearance with a rather naïve and controversial statement?

    Although we cannot blame her for her father's sins; but if she wants to remain true to herself and have a life of her own, she has to start with a clean slate. Don't play dirty politics in the bid to rid of your father's sin and baggage. It won't work.

    You can have your life back if you follow your true calling - speak your own mind. Marina Mahathir, no doubt many had rejected her due to the father she has, can still manage to strive out on her own, giving her opinions completely different from her father.

    Rowena, before you do another shocking stunt like that, please grow up first.

    PS: I agree, leave her father out of the discussion. Rowena made a point in a forum and she deserves a decent answer. Attack her point not her personal affiliations or relationship. Give her a good rebuttal.

    I believe Tindak Malaysia's objective was to bring greater awareness to Malaysians on issues of political-social-economic nature. I do not understand her rant on the racial composition of the NGO.

    I am sure it's a voluntary organisation with a constitution that does not stipulate any membership quota along racial lines, thus her question on this point is not quite right.

    However, her points regarding the minority ruling over the majority and voting along racial lines are valid and deserves a hearing from readers.

    In essence, if we take away the racial element in GE13, we should be wary of how a minority government rules over the majority Pakatan voters.

    Odin: First, do forgive me if I am not as intelligent as this woman. Without the benefit of hearing what was said at the forum, my take is that she questioned why Tindak Malaysia chief Wong Piang Yow did not mention race in his presentation.

    But, first, the forum discussed electoral reforms; therefore, why must race come into it? Second, two things the body avoids discussing are race and religion matters. Therefore, it should be obvious that Wong should not have touched on the matter of race.

    As to her assertion that Malaysians still voted along racial lines, I am lost, too. Surely many people of a particular race have voted for candidates of another one.

    Then we learn of her taking Bahrain as an example to prove her contention that the minority could not protect the rights of the majority. Did Wong say that the minority could do that?

    In any case, this example, to me, isn't quite appropriate, as the Shiites and Sunnis have always been at loggerheads, and therefore, why would the Sunnis there be bothered too much about the Shiites?

    I also completely fail to see what the percentage of Malays in Tindak Malaysia has got to do with the body's mission. Since she was concerned about the element, and as it is in her view lacking, why has she declined to join the body to help boost the Malay presence in it?

    The proper thing for her to do is to quickly gather all her Malay friends of her level of intelligence to join the body and show the "incompetent" members like Wong how to do things right.

    Absalom: Rowena, there are so many things wrong with your argument that you might have been better off asking about the chicken. By your reasoning, Barack Obama should not be president of the United States.

    It is not the minority protecting the majority that we ought to be worried about. It is about the lot of us Malaysians being protected from a mentality like yours.

    Anonymous #19895825: I am Malaysian. I am a minority. I do not need the protection of the majority. I need equality.




    CHARGES NOT INDAH 47 per cent makes it the minority government.
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    Bersih 4.0 if EC bulldozes through re-delineation





    Electoral reforms pressure group Bersih has threatened to hold mass rallies if the Election Commission (EC) proceeds with the re-delineation exercise without cleaning the electoral roll first.

    "We are going to build up and what I can tell is we are going to do our best that it (re-delineation) does not happen before the electoral roll is cleaned up.

    "It is that serious, that is the message I want to get across," Bersih co-chairperson Ambiga Sreevenasan told journalists after an electoral reform forum at the Bar Council headquaters in Kuala Lumpur today.

    Ambiga still hoped that the EC won't proceed with the exercise until the integrity of the electoral roll is assured and avoid the protest.

    "We want to educate people first, and then may be they will respond and say they may clean up the electoral roll first, but I'm not holding my breath.

    "It is as simple as that, all they have to do is say we will stop and clean up the electoral roll first," she said.

    Election Commission chief Abdul Aziz Mohd Yusof had said that the re-delineation process will begin at the end of this year.
    Ambiga pointed out that the revelations that immigrants made into the electoral roll by the ongoing royal commission of inquiry (RCI) on immigration in Sabah was reason enough to hold off the exercise.

    'Stuck for two GEs'

    She warned that if the EC proceeds with the re-delineation based on the existing flawed electoral roll, Malaysia will have to live with it for a long time.

    "Once you do the re-delineation we are stuck with it for eight years, not just for the next general election but also the one after that... Are we Malaysians prepared to allow that situation to happen?" she asked.

    The Federal Constitution stipulates that the re-delineation process must take place every eight years. The last exercise began in 2003 and was implemented in 2004.

    Ambiga was also highly critical of the Election Commission in her presentation, while repeatedly urging fellow penalist and EC member P Manogaran to resign.

    She also pointed out that the EC had made statements that compromised its credibility, including calling opposition MPs "hypocrites", to which Manogran said such statements did not come from him.

    Manogaran: It's NRD's fault
    He added that the onus of determining whether someone was a citizen or not depended on the National Registration Department (NRD).

    "If NRD says the person if a citizen then we accept, we can't interrogate people whether they are citizens or not, the NRD is the authority for that," he said.

    However, Ambiga retorted that the EC was the guardian of the electoral roll and cannot simply shirk its responsibility.

    "If the NRD has committed treason, are you going to do nothing about it? If I was the EC, there is a lot that I will do," she said.

    The Sabah RCI has heard that immigrants in Sabah were illegally granted citizenship through covert operations in the NRD, and they eventually registered as voters.

    The forum entitled: "Electoral Reforms - Out with the Old, In with the New?" today is the third in a series of post-general election talks organised by the Bar Council.
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    UMNO Baruputra Rule, Ok!!

    JULY 17, 2013 BY DINOBEANO

    UMNO Baruputra Rule, Ok!!

    by Mariam Mokhtar@<b><a href="http://www.malay...ni.com</a></b>

    http://www.malaysiakini.com/columns/235653
    What Rowena Abdul Razak, daughter of one of Malaysia’s most infamous toadies, said that minorities were incapable of ruling, it is not just an affront to Malays, but an insult to all Malaysians.

    Rowena should know that when you raise your head above the parapet, you can expect it to be shot. It is alarming to hear a woman with a sound education, who has enjoyed a privileged upbringing, and is currently pursuing her postgraduate studies, talk about the governance of a country in terms of majority rule, Malay rights, protection and race.

    It is disheartening to hear educated Malays talk in such a shortsighted manner and act as if they learned nothing from their times spent in civilised countries. They have learnt nothing of the outside world, nor of the fallacy of Malay supremacy.

    Students like Adam Adli Abdul Halim have had their education curtailed, whereas children of UMNO Baruputras enjoy the largesse of the taxpayer. Adam was trying to help all Malaysians, whereas Rowena appears to be selfishly championing UMNO Baruputras.

    At a Bar Council Forum on electoral reforms Rowena queried the ability of the minority to protect the rights of the majority.

    Has she not heard of
    Benjamin Disraeli, Barack Hussein Obama and Alberto Fujimori? One was Jewish but became Prime Minister of Great Britain, the man who was of African extraction now heads America and a Japanese once ruled Peru.

    Rowena talks like an UMNO Baruputra. Most normal people want a country which is ruled by an able leader, who is prepared to look after its citizens with equality and fairness.
    She said, “In Malaysia, you are proposing something where the minority would be empowered, how then do you protect the rights of the majority?”How ironic that what she said is true. This illegitimate minority UMNO Baru government has already broken many of the promises it made before GE13. It does not champion the interests of the majority but it excels in protecting the rights of UMNO Baruputras.

    By referring to “the majority”, Rowena presumably means the Malays. If the truth be known, the original Malays are a minority in Malaysia and it is the pseudo Malays, those who want to take advantage of the perks which were granted to the Malays, in the constitution, who form the majority in Malaysia.

    Holding the rest of Malaysia to ransom

    We once had a PM, Mahathir Mohamad, who was of Indian extraction. He sought to confuse the Malay mind by creating a dilemma within the Malay world. What emerged was another Malay species – the UMNO Baruputra. In a sense, the minority UMNO Baruputras could be classed as a minority species and it is they who are holding the rest of Malaysia to ransom.

    In Syria, the ruling minority Alawite sect, to which President Bashir Al-Assad belongs, punishes and kills the majority Sunnis for opposing his rule. Rowena is right but conversely, we have seen that Mahathir’s policies continue to wreak havoc on the Malay psyche. Rowena is therefore wrong when she said that “the minority cannot even protect themselves”. The UMNO Baruputras who govern, only think of themselves and jealously guard their turf.

    If we allowed Rowena the benefit of the doubt, and assume that the Malay majority can protect others, why have we issues with forced conversions of children of another faith into Islam, why are Christians forbidden from using the word Allah, why is the Ambassador from the Vatican shown the door and why are certain people – Indians, Orang Asli and Penans having problems establishing their citizenship?

    Why did Mahathir dilute the percentage of the true Sabahans with an influx of Muslim foreigners from the Philippines, Indonesian and Pakistan? The former majority Kadazan-Dusun population was
    cheated by a minority group.


    Rowena criticised the NGO Tindak Malaysia for the low (10 percent) percentage of Malays in the organisation which she said was not representative of Malaysian demographics. Is this a fair criticism? Are Malays averse to volunteering? Do they avoid corporate social responsibilities?

    It is wrong of Rowena to publicly admonish Wong Piang Yow, the Tindak Malaysia chief, for something beyond his control. Malays may form a majority in some other NGOs, like Perkasa, but this is not necessarily a good thing.

    In November 2006, when Rowena’s father, Razak Baginda, was charged with abetting two police personnel in the murder of the Mongolian national Altantuya Shaaribuu, observers were shocked when Mazlinda Makhzan, Baginda’s wife, screamed, “Why charge my husband, he does not want to be the Prime Minister…”? What was Mazlinda insinuating?

    After Baginda was acquitted in 2008, he held a press conference, and stressed throughout the 50-minute-long media briefing that Najib Abdul Razak, the Deputy Prime Minister at the time, and his wife, Rosmah Mansor, had nothing to do with Altantuya’s murder. Why did Baginda blame bloggers for misleading the public?

    It is curious that Rowena and her mother, Mazlinda, attended this Bar Council forum on electoral reform and attracted attention with their remarks. One would think that a family, with a chequered past, such as theirs, would want to be as discreet as possible, especially as large sums of the taxpayers’ money were stolen under the guise of commission, a woman was murdered violently and a cover-up involving the Judiciary, Police and Immigration Department allegedly followed.


    Stuff of spy-thrillers

    The trail of sex, corruption and scandal which Baginda weaved with his alleged lover across Europe and Asia is the stuff of spy-thrillers. There was no romance involved, just plain deceit and lust. The rakyat demand answers and justice.

    Why would the Baginda family be interested in electoral reform, especially as a change of government could trigger a re-trial of Altantuya’s alleged murderers and force Baginda to return the millions he sequestered? More importantly, Najib’s true role might be exposed.

    Rowena should realise that the sins of her father have cast a shadow over her. Is the rakyat being misled by remarks made by her and her mother? Is this a distraction designed to dissuade people from attending Suaram’s Scorpene fund-raising dinner, to be held on July 19, at which new revelations about the progress of the French lawyers could be revealed?

    Has Rowena been pressured into becoming the new “Ummi Hafilda”; another sexton charged with burying news that are detrimental to UMNO Baru?

    Conversely, having been betrayed and having to endure the wrath of the public, there is a slight possibility that both mother and daughter want justice to be served. They must know this can only happen if Pakatan forms the next government of Malaysia.
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    • dinobeano July 17, 2013 at 12:47 am
      I pay my respects to P Y Wong, a public spirited Malaysian, who is in the forefront of the fight for free and fair elections. I do not understand why Rowena should criticise PY and Tindak Malaysia. Any ideas, guys? –Din Merican

    • SiangMalam July 17, 2013 at 2:00 am
      I know PY personally… we spoke a bit in Pelita in Subang Jaya prior to and after 2008 GE12… I have a lot of respect for a guy like PY Wong, who is a retired professional engineer, who at that time was planning to trek through Europe and South America etc with his teenage son – to bond better, in his words – and form Tindak Malaysia.
      And here we have a young upstart, who had a privileged upbringing, to criticize the work of a man who sacrificed his family quality time, to help bring about a fair and free elections to Malaysia, and who uses his own money to fund the early classes he held for PACABA….
      Rowena Abdul Razak, please know your place….

    • SiangMalam July 17, 2013 at 2:06 am
      USD500 million in commission and another USD128 million for maintenance services…. that’s a cool USD628 million (or RM1,700 million) of taxpayers’ money…. unaccounted for and down the drain…. that’s 3,400 more kidney dialysis machines for Malaysia…. and we can’t even have the balance 350 we need badly for Malaysia hospitals and clinics!!!
      Can people like Rowena not distract and interfere in this country

    • SiangMalam July 17, 2013 at 5:29 am
      Can someone here pass the following article written by a member of the Malaysian Bar Syahredzan Johan?
      http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/in...#axzz2ZFIcHLTs
      It is people like Syahredzan Johan (and Rafizi Ramli, Zairil Khir Johari, Afif Bahardin, Tony Pua, Liew Chin Tong, Sim Tze Tzin, Hannah Yeoh, Teoh Nie Ching, Nurul Izzah Anwar, Ong Kian Ming, Darrel Iking, Elizabeth Wong et all) that give me and my family hope that Malaysia’s greatest moment might still yet to come!

    • SiangMalam July 17, 2013 at 5:31 am
      # apologies: pls pass the article to Rowena Abdul Razak

    • Mr Bojangles July 17, 2013 at 7:33 am
      For a while I thought it was UMNO Baruaputra.
      But I guess the writer didn’t want to sully her bulan puasa.


    • Phua Kai Lit July 17, 2013 at 7:37 am
      China has its “princelings” i.e. privileged/spoilt children of its
      ruling class “Communist” (?) Party nomenklatura.

      Malaysia has its equivalent in the children of the
      ruling class UMNO Baru-putras. And I suppose
      MCA-putras, MIC-putras etc too.


    • Revi July 17, 2013 at 8:46 am
      it is sad my wife wife is aussie see the beauty of the malays very simple simple people with warm hearts but umno has created this ultra racist malay to protect their power the malays in the country must rise or there no future for the nation

    • rosiah July 17, 2013 at 11:18 am
      i think the root cause of most of our problems in malaysia is the poor state of race-relations. Hopefully, there will be more inter-marriages, as that is one sure way of improving the situation. Currently, NGOs on both sides (the extremists) are poisoning the people’s minds. Each side retaliates and the situation goes from bad to worse.

    • TC July 17, 2013 at 11:46 am
      We have, in Sarawak a CM who is from the minority,Melanau who has ruled Sarawak despite that the Dayaks are the majority.

    • anakrakyat July 17, 2013 at 12:02 pm
      The kampong Malays, yes. They are nice and gentle. The UMNOPutra Malays supreme racists and corrupted to the core of their bone and it is this evil lot that is ruling the country.

    • Danapaul July 17, 2013 at 3:20 pm
      Yes, Rowena dear, what type of British education did you acquire? Your father must have tried to give you the best but that best has not resulted in you producing the best of arguments.
      You question the ability of the minority to govern? Well, since you and your family were hiding out in Britain until now, you may not have had the opportunity to be informed of the progress made by Penang for example under a Pakatan Government of the minority. Here again by minority do you mean Pakatan or the non-Malays? If you are referring to non-Malays, my dear, the real Malays are a minority themselves as pointed out by Mariam M.
      You see, there are far more pseudo-Malays in Malaysia now as various groups such as Indons, Filipinos, Banglas, Keralans and soon Arabs, have jumped on the bandwagon to enjoy the so-called privileges for Bumiputras. But the real beneficiaries of the NEP or whatever name you put to it, are not all the Malays but the ruling Umnoputras and hangers-on such as one Abdul Razak Baginda.
      Rowena, I am not too sure of the reason for your sudden appearance here after hibernating in Britain since the Razak guy was acquitted of the murder of his Mongolian lover. I presume you feel it is safe to do so as Prime Minister Najib will be in power for another five years at least. Of cos, if Pakatan had won GE13 no way would you have set foot in your motherland(?).
      By coming back and making rather uneducated statements like “minorities cannot govern”, you have touched a raw nerve of the educated Malays and the minorities.
      Mariam M. referred to “Malaysia’s most infamous toadies”, I think that’s an insult to the toad family. Sorry, Rowena darling, you slime balls don’t belong to the human race.

    • chachacheah July 17, 2013 at 3:53 pm
      Well said, Mariam. Thank you for having the guts to speak the truth. What this little twisted maggot said is also a true reflection of her roots. Wasted our tax-payers money to fund her education.

    • Jack July 17, 2013 at 5:07 pm
      I think this lady is writing with ulterior motive,her agenda is to help ensure that UMNO would never be replaced so the truth cannot be known.

    • James Chua July 17, 2013 at 5:33 pm
      Hey you guys, Rowena is not a minority with such views. There are a plenty of very well educated Malays that you will find at Jebat Must Die and MOLE.my that hold Malay supremacists views. In those blogs, the ugly head of racism, bigotry are as clear as sunshine. I am most grateful to Dato Din, Tok Cik, Bean Bojangles and all those here that reminds me that there are highly educated Malays and Muslims understand bigotry and religious extremism has no place in a secular and multi-cultural society. Thanks !!!!

    • aliefalfa July 17, 2013 at 5:37 pm
      ‘By referring to “the majority”, Rowena presumably means the Malays. If the truth be known, the original Malays are a minority in Malaysia and it is the pseudo Malays, those who want to take advantage of the perks which were granted to the Malays, in the constitution, who form the majority in Malaysia.’ – Mariam Mokhtar.
      Ms Mariam should specify who are actually the “original Malays” that she claimed to be in the minority in Malaysia. And after failing to be specific on whom she meant as the minority “original Malays”, she insulted the majority Constitutional Malays by referring to them as “pseudo Malays” portraying her racist inclination unfortunately. Constitutional Malays, by the definition, are ethnically race-neutral.
      @rosiah at 11:18am, rosiah suggested an increase in inter-marriage in Malaysia may improve race-relation but I doubt that would be adequate. Rowena is, in fact, a by-product of an inter-marriage of her grand parents, but that doesn’t stop her remarks being taken as a threat to good race-relation and racial co-existence. The increase in the number of Constitutional Malays in Malaysia will certainly make its citizens immune to any racial slurs and racist remarks as the Constitutional Malays are ethnically race-neutral.

    • Democrat July 17, 2013 at 6:02 pm
      Hi James, don’t insult the blog host by putting him under the same category as Jebat Must Die and MOLE.my

    • ShakrinaLIkram July 17, 2013 at 8:51 pm
      IT could be that Razak Baginda is indeed seeking Justice for his not being able to return by sending his wife and daughter as the rece team.. One can get tired of having to bear someone else’s burden. Remember the late Bala swore that there were text exchanges between RB and the then DPM, somthing about `keeping cool while he goes to see the IGP at 11am’ and also RB’s outburst, cursing of Pak Lah in Court before his acquittal. The ensuing Press Con was merely part of a charade. But in the light of what his wife’s Mazlinda Makhzan’s said, there surely was more than pausible suspicion to the real mastermind(s) of the Altantuya murder of October, 2006!

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